[john styles]

Hi Andy

Good to here you have herd of good results for cancer, my chiropractor did not now for sure, maybe he was just being cautious. I am  still doing good, just got back from my walk, still doing a mile and half with no oxygen. Thanks for all your input and guidance, without you I would have not started with laser.  I feel for you with snow, here in Florida we are 80 degrees today.

[john styles]

I have ground glass at the bottom of my lungs, and I was down to 35% fcv. I think the ground glass may have been antagonized by the 3 ct scans I had last year because they did not find the ground glass until  November, I have decided not to do any more ct scans. I f you take into account the Egyptian study it seems the lungs respond to most lung disorders when treated by laser. Just a thought from my chiropractor,  you may not want to use laser if you have cancer, no research but the laser speeds up healing and may speed up the cancer, as for me I do not have cancer at this time but I thought about it and did the math, at the rate my lung fcv was deteriorating I thought I would survive longer by doing laser. I think Andy recommendation on type of laser and   how long to use the laser and wattage is critical, again I had a holistic center want to start me at a low rate, if I had done the low rate I may not have had the response I had.  When I discussed with my general practitioner I was feeling better he told me that is subjective but the increase ability to walk is real and he saw for himself my increased saturation level, he was thinking of  recommending  to another patient she find a chiropractor with a class 4 laser for her pulmonary fibrosis.   I am paying $40 a visit, the chiropractor I see offered me a discount if I paid for 8 sessions in advance, his office policy, other wise I would be paying $45 a visit. Soon I will be on maintenance at one visit a week with a cost of $40-45.  Andy results seem to suggest the laser stops the progression of the disease. We all have to be realistic and stopping progression of the disease is huge but as far as healing I do not think it will help. We live in a capitalistic,  society, nothing wrong with that as I did well in the real estate business and now I am retired. If we wait for research into the laser to happen it will be after we are dead and gone. Thankfully Andy is trying and on his own with no funding. If the laser was a drug at a cost of $8,000 a year per person you can bet that the drug company’s would be all over it. Few options are available but I like the laser option.

[john styles]

Let me add, when I was searching for someone with a class 4 laser I called a holistic center that wanted to start me out on 2 1/2 watts and increase 1/2 watt every week. I then found a chiropractor who agreed to treat me, the visits are $45 but I receive a discount for paying for 8 visits in advance. My chiropractor uses a light force ( brand recommended by dr Hall ) and each session is 20 minutes.  As far as wanting to see more research on this therapy, guess what? No money in it for the drug company’s who do most of the research.  I still have issues with hills and lifting, but I am improving.  There is research where the laser was used on mice and on a westie dog, but you can not compare animals to humans.

[john styles]

Hello everyone, let me do some updates. First we are fortunate Dr Hall has taken the time to help all of us.  Now let me say the best evidence we have is Doctor Hall who has been using the laser with no progression and has several people including me who are doing laser Dr Hall is a real pioneer and caring person but I think the more people who want to do this need to research for themselves. That is where I discovered the Egyptian study done in Cairo and published last year. The scientist who did the publication is Mr Sayed with research center at Georgia Tech. He had no funding for the study but he did study using laser on 30 people with copd and another 50 patients with asthma and 98 additional children with asthma and  31 patients with different lung diseases including interstitial lung disease. The study was short and was for 2 weeks and treatment 5 days a week. The remarkable thing about the study was every patient improved  and no issues with side effects.  You may ask who is Mr Sayed, he graduated for Florida State with a doctorate degree and  did post graduate study at Yale, Harvard and Cal Tech and has been recognized by George W Bash and Obama in 2011 said he was one of the top scientist of the decade.  Now we have Dr Hall who has teaches laser therapy and discovered it can stop the progression of the disease and has myself and several others doing laser therapy.  As for my self I did two treatments the first week and 2 and  week 3 and 4 and plan to continue with 2 treatments for another two weeks and then will go to one a week.  I saw my general doctor yesterday to go over my blood work and he noticed my oxygen saturation was 96, last visit it was 92. I just returned from walking 1 1/2 miles with no portable oxygen, before I had to use a inogen g3 on setting of 5 and had to stop 6 times because my saturation dropped to 78, now they stay above 90.  I do 9 watts for 5 minutes on front of each lung and 5 minutes on back for a total of 20 minutes.  You can find chiropractors who use lasers by google  chiropractor laser therapy and putting your city in .  Good luck to all, it may not be for everyone but time is not stopping and this disease is nasty. I was planning my obituary but now I am planning some vacations. What a change, my hats off to Doctor Hall. Let me add one additional thing, the day before I found Dr Hall I prayed and then the next day I changed search engines temporarily to bing.

[john styles]

I think this laser treatment will treat most lung conditions, again google the ” Egyptian laser study copd” the 3 or 4th page references that in Cairo they used the laser on children with asma, copd adults and people with pulmonary fibrosis and other lung conditions, but their study was only done for 2 weeks but everyone improved.  long term we have Dr Hall a true pioneer and in my opinion a brave person who has used it on himself for almost 5 years with no progression of the disease. Dr Halls results are better then a lung transplant, at 5 years with a lung transplant there is 50% survival rate and the anti rejection drugs are hard on the other organs of the body.  As for me, I have done my 7th treatment and scheduled tomorrow for another treatment. I feel good, a lot better then I was prior to treatment. Still have issues with bending over or hills but I have just completed 4 one mile walks I was high 70 low  80 during  my walk with having to stop about 6 times, now I stay above 90 and do not have to stop. I feel better, Amazing results. Most all study’s are done by the drug company’s in anticipation of profits,  its up to us to do this and get the word out, aprox 40,000 people are diagnosed with this disease every year. If we do this and all start reporting the results we will save lives starting with our own life.

[john styles]

Hi Lynn,  Its going to work, stick with it and share your results.  I would say good luck but I do not think luck has anything to do with the results. I finished my 7 treatment yesterday and I am scheduled for another tomorrow. Amazing results.

 

 

[john styles]

I do not know if purchasing a class 4 laser is a good idea,  medical and veterinarians use them and you would need  instruction and practice on how to operate one, I did notice a holistic center had one.  Seems the laser works but we are in uncharted territory, Dr Hall used it twice a week for a month and then once a week. The Egyptian study they used it 5 times a week for two weeks, I have used it twice the first week and 3 times the second week and I am scheduled for 3 times this week.  I also noted they used it on other groups and had positive results and at the end of the study it mentioned no funding for the study.  Again I do not think the laser heals but it may prevent the disease from progressing if we are lucky.

[john styles]

Hello

This laser study done in Cairo was published last fall 2018, there is some reference to people being treated for IPF, seems everyone responded but treatment was only for 14 days. Dr Hall used the laser on himself 4 years ago and is still using it.  I know you can not compare animals to humans but there is a article on google about a Westie dog that had pulmonary fibrosis and the vet used the laser on the dog, the dog did not progress with the disease and died of some other cause 5 years later.  Chiropractors use the class 4 laser and know of the benefits and Dr Hall said it needs to be a class 4 laser to go deep enough. These are not cutting lasers.  I figured what have I got to lose? This is a terminal disease with aprox a 5 year life span. I was deteriorating. I googled chiropractors with class 4 lasers and the first one I talked to was familiar with the laser and had seen results for other issues but not lungs. When I shared with him the information from Dr Hall and Egyptian study and told him this was a terminal disease he agreed to treat me.  The reality is there is no big profits for research on lasers for pulmonary fibrosis so no study will probably be done soon. I know we are all dealt a bad hand with this disease.  As for me I am doing the laser, may not be for everyone.  I just wanted to share what appears to be something good when there is not much that can be done for this disease.  Hope you investigate it and make up your own mind.

[john styles]

Hello everyone.  The Egyptian study for laser for COPD was done by one of Americas top Scientist Mr Seyed, he has been recognized by George W Bush and Obama and his research office is at Georgia Tech.  You can find the laser study by googling ” Egyptian laser study copd”  I live in Florida and the cost from my chiropractor is $40 a visit. I had to supply my chiropractor with the Egyptian article and Dr Halls post for my chiropractor to treat me, I have been treated for two weeks and next week will be my third week. I have had some amazing results, I usually run 90 to 92 sitting or standing saturation level and still do at times but usually a day after treatment I have been getting some 96 to 98 saturation levels. I do not think this is a cure but may stop or slow the disease. Anyway, I am feeling better.  Dr Halls web site is ipflaserstudy.com not all chiropractors use a cold laser and the one Dr Hall is using is a cold laser 4, seems the 4 penetrates deeper.

 

[john styles]

Dr Hall is a chiropractor in California that has IPF, he has a web site ipflaserstudy.com  I had two treatments last week at a chiropractor here in Florida cost $40 a treatment and two this week with one planned Friday. The Egyptian study was done in Cairo by one of our country’s top scientist recognized by George Bush and Obama, his office for research is out of Georgia Tech.

[john styles]

Nothing I did stooped the decline in exercise except what I posted under Laser Therapy.  I went from walking 3 1/2 miles from first diagnosised to walking 1 mile with portable oxygen at 5 to no oxygen.  This is an unforgiving and nasty disease but there may be hope with the class 4 cold laser.