Hi Tan,

Yes, a Class 3 laser cannot reach into the lungs, it must be a Class 4 laser and we suggest a minimum of 10 watts of power. You might want to go to my website and read the article on laser therapy for lungs/IPF. summit-chiropractic.com it explains a lot and has the current protocol for treatment.

Hello Janice, there are several providers in the UK providing laser therapy for IPF patients. I suggest that you go to my office website, summit-chiropractic.com and click on IPF study. You will learn a lot about laser therapy and how and why it works. Laser therapy is NOT a cure but a viable way to manage the disease. The article on…

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Hello Safa,

Sadly, there are many laser therapy providers in Canada that do not want to provide care to IPF patients due to not being in the ‘scope of practice’. The way to get around that is to not treat the patient for IPF but for ‘inflammation’ which IS under the scope of practice. You may want to go back and talk with the local…

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Nice to hear from you Steve.  Hope all is well in your world.  I’m still doing great.  Stay well!

Hello Sam,

No, laser therapy is not new.  It was approved in the US in 2003 but was in use in Europe for 30 years before that.  It is VERY well researched, thousands of scientific studies have been done.  To learn more about it go to my website:  summit-chiropactic.com     You can click on Laser therapy and also for IPF you can click on IPF… Read more

I would like to let everyone know about what is happening with laser therapy for the Covid 19.  Earlier in the week I was contacted by Dr Barabas from St Thomas hospital in London.  (same hospital where Prime Minister Boris Johnson is being treated).  He asked if I would be willing to join a working group of international doctors that are/will… Read more

Hi Rand,

Laser therapy is very well known to reduce inflammation and promotes healing.  We have found it very helpful for the vast majority of PF patients.  I am a Chiropractor and have been using laser therapy in my practice since the FDA approved it in 2004.  When I was diagnosed with IPF 6 years ago I started on laser therapy.  My next 2… Read more

Thanks for the update John, so great to hear you are still doing well and stable.

I know things really slowed down on the laser therapy thread on PFN, but I have still been very busy referring IPF patients to laser therapy providers,  just referred another 5 just this morning alone.  The good news is that the vast majority of patients are… Read more

@tomp

 

Hello Tom Pratt,

Welcome to this wonderful forum.  I have done a search for you and there is one provider right in Greensboro.  There are several others in Winston Salem.  If you email me I can get into some specifics and recommendations.  My email is:  drhall@summit-chiropractic.com

Also know that the vast majority of laser… Read more

Marsha,

Thank you for the kind words.  I did reply to Tom and did a search for him.  My reply is awaiting moderation.

Again, I want you to know that I appreciate your sweet words and kindness and helping others along the way.  I want everyone to know that I will help locate laser therapy providers for those that want to undertake laser… Read more

Hello Kate,

Pleased to hear you are starting laser!  Sorry it’s taken so long to get to you but I am currently camped in the wilds of Wyoming.  In town now for supplies, etc.  No internet available at camp……

Usually, the protocol is simply printed without converting to a pdf.  I don’t know if you can just print but that’s what I would… Read more

Marsha,

Know that we are all THRILLED  for your progress.  You are inspirational!!!

That’s awesome Karen.  I’m curious what your O2 levels were running before starting laser therapy.  I am assuming it was fairly low considering you have been on oxygen.

Hi Joseph,

I am thrilled to hear of the positive change!  Boy, how the attitudes and acceptance of pulmonologists vary.  Some are like yours, and others are totally for laser therapy.  Go figure.  My pulmonologist totally ‘gets’ laser therapy, knows it helps, but said he would never actually refer a patient out for ‘any alternative care’ and… Read more

Peter,

There is one missing…….  Difficult healing.  17024 HZ,  10 watts, 25 seconds.  Thanks for bring that to my attention!

Andy

Hi Joe,

You are right, a typo, I was diagnosed in 2014.  I will contact my webmaster and get that changed.

Andy

Hi Peter,

I honestly don’t know if laser will be helpful for PH and/or Bronchiectasis.  This is all new territory, but I don’t think it would hurt to give laser a try.  I will keep good thoughts for you……

Andy

Hi Linda,

I can tell you that Medicare does not pay for laser.  Some private insurance companies do pay, but generally just a small portion, at least here in Calif.  The best thing to do is to have your doctor’s staff do some checking on it for you.

GOOD NEWS!

The updated laser therapy protocol is finally available.  To see the update, and print for your doctor, please go to my office website and click on IPF.   summit-chiropractic.com

Sorry to everyone for this to take so darned long……….

Dr Andy Hall

Wow Sam,

What a shame!  I would certainly hate for  you to not get laser therapy.  Who knows?  Some pulmonologists dont’ have a problem with laser therapy at all, there is always the outside chance you could get a letter from him. Worth at least trying.  I think all of us in the US are blessed that we don’t have these kinds of problems… Read more

Got your email Sam, thanks.  I will be sending some stuff that may help you get into the doctor and get treated.

Andy

Hi Sam,

Please provide me with your email and I will send you some stuff that may help get you into Angus Therapeutics and I will offer some suggestions.

Andy

No problem Sam.  If there is anything I can do to help please let me know!

Andy

Hello Sam,

I have done a search for youand I have found that in nearby Angus is Angus Therapeutics @705-424-8824.  Also in Wasaga Beach are doctors Adams and Mardi @ 705-429-0911.  If they have questions about treatment protocol know that I will be happy to provide that for them!

Best wishes,

Dr Andy Hall

Hi Marsha,

We are all in new territory here with long term laser use.  I honestly can’t say how you will do with laser treatment every two weeks.  I would suggest that you just monitor your progress and see how you do with it.  I continue with weekly treatment because it works well for me, I am maintaining very well.  My concern is that I… Read more

Hi Linda,

Actually ILD encompasses many lung diseases including IPF, HP, etc, etc.  So, it’s really non-specific.  But the answer is yes, laser would probably be helpful for you just as it has been for the vast majority of patients with one form of ILD or another.  I’m also getting reports of patients that have had positive changes using laser… Read more

Hi Jgohn,

You may be right, pulmonary hypertension could be a cause of what’s going on with David…….  I would love to know what it is that is making his stats change like that.

Andy

Hi David,

I have never heard of this before where the O2 raises on one side and decreases on the other.  I think though that it is a good idea to try increasing the dose on the left side to see what happens.  Frankly, it’s a mystery to me why it would do that.  When is your next PFT?  It will be interesting to see what the FVC, etc is doing… Read more

Leontis,

I have emailed the gentleman about the nano nutrients and asked all the questions, what is in them, how much, where to purchase and how do you inhale them. When I hear back I will let you know……..

Andy

Hi Leontis,

I’m using the Lung Health formula Wei products.  It is a TCM (traditional chinese medicine) They are expensive, but if they do what the company claims it will be well worth it.  If you want to order some for Betty, give me a few days and I may be able to get you a discount.

Andy

Hi Piet ( @Piet-Potgieter)

 

Sorry about the confusion.  ATP (adenosine tri-phosphate) is increased with laser therapy.  It is the substance that our cells derive their energy from, but also is the substance that the cells use to heal with.  This is one reason why laser speeds the healing of all tissues in the body (skin, muscle, bone, nerve,… Read more

John,  so glad you are still doing so well.  Awesome!  Happy you had a good trip to France.  Steve, I started the Wei products about the same time you did.  I think there is some improvement with my cough, no change in my O2 levels but the laser has maintained that pretty high anyway.  Mostly I want to find if it will reduce the fibrous… Read more

Thank goodness we all still have a sense of humor!  I have found that I cough at times with laughing too.  I can’t say I know how to deal with it, but my theory is that with a hearty kind of laugh we use our diaphragm muscle that we breath with, and with the short and quick contraction of it while laughing it probably disturbs some of the… Read more

Steve,

The rumors are true!!!!  The internet extends all the way to the Philippines!

Been wondering how your flight went.  Also wondering how it felt to finally have your wife in your arms after all this time.  We want a full report!

Blessings Steve!

Andy

Hi Linda ( @lwaldschmidt )

The local doctor with a cold laser has a Class III laser.  It doesn’t have the power to get through the chest wall and into the lungs.  I’ve done some searching for you and there are 2 providers, both some distance from Hays.  In Salina, Salina Chiropractic, 785-823-1060.   In Colby, Tubbs Chiropractic, 785-462-7236.

Hi Stephanie,

I can tell you that Melissa Ritter DC in Newport Beach would accept you as a patient.  May be a long way for you to travel but she is in the LA area.  I have known her for over 10 years and knows laser therapy as well as anyone in S. Cal.  She has credentialled other doctors, etc.  Her phone is 949-833-3472.

Marsha,  I too along with Charlene and everyone else am THRILLED with the positive changes you have had.  Wonderful to see no changes on your CT scan!  So glad you started laser therapy, and I hope we see more positive changes in the future.   Way to go girl!!!!

God Bless you!

Andy

Hi Ron,

Yes, stable is good……..   How often do you have a PFT?  These look to be about 4 months apart.  When will you have the next one?  So please to hear you are feeling better, no matter what the reasons!

Andy

Hi Ron,

I would have been nice to see more dramatic changes in your numbers, but as you said, in the world of IPF stable is good.  And the good thing is that even though not dramatic we do see improved numbers.

I will be in touch with the doctors today in regards to the protocol. One of them has been dealing with some serious health issues… Read more

Wow John,  that is VERY impressive!  After 3 minutes your O2 was up to 98, how long did it stay that high?

I used to breed quality German Wirehaired Pointers many years ago.  I went dogless for over 10 years after my breeding bitch died of old age.  When I got diagnosed the doctor said I would be on o2 in 4 years, and that’s when I got a new Wirehaired pup.  I said BS, watch me, I’ll be hunting behind my dog in 4 years and I won’t be dragging an… Read more

Hi Peter,

Dang, we are SO close, but it has been painfully slow for me working with doctors spread out all over.  One of them has had some serious health issues that has put things on hold.  I truly hope it is complete very soon. I will let everyone know as soon as it’s done.

Andy

Hi David,

Your resting O2 is really pretty darned good, and you may not see it come up, maybe just a point or so.  Because you are starting laser early in the disease, you might not see a whole lot of positive change.  I started right after diagnosis and had some decrease in the cough, but like you I was still very physical and I maintained… Read more